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Among the many weighty questions that Russia's government has struggled with in recent months -- of war and peace, budget cuts and sanctions -- is this one: Is poker a game of skill or chance?

The answer is far from trivial. It will go a long way to determining whether Russia can legalize online poker, and so bring the craze for the game which has swept the nation in recent years within reach of the nation's tax collectors. It's a debate that's closely bound up with the fate of Russia's proud traditions in chess.

During the Soviet era, chess tables could be seen in every Russian or eastern European park, with dozens of players lost in concentration. Cheap and egalitarian, chess became the Soviet Union's leading "sport" of the mind, producing more champions than any other nation on Earth. Celebrities at home, they traveled the world.

And yet, just 25 years later, chess has been nudged almost into the margins of ex-Soviet society -- by nakedly mercenary poker.

For many chess players, the card game of American folklore and gangster movies has become a life changer. Their composure and intelligence, their ability to quickly evaluate a situation and calculate options, to absorb theory and concentrate for hours at a time make them outstanding poker players, too. The big difference is that when they play cards, they stand to win substantial amounts of money.

Although online poker is illegal in Russia, the game has spread rapidly. A poll in 2013 found that 16 percent of Russians (or 20 million people) played poker, up five percentage points from just two years earlier. That proportion is probably higher again today, three years on. Pokerstars - the world's largest online operator - reports that Russians account for 8.4 percent of all users of its on sites, second only to the U.S. Dmitry Andreikin, born in the Russia Soviet Federative Socialist Republic in 1990, and currently fifth in the World Chess Federation's ranking for Russia, is among the converts. So is Almira Skripchenko, born in the Moldovan Soviet Socialist Republic in 1976. She takes part in the World Series of Poker, among other tournaments.

That so much economic activity is happening on foreign websites represents a loss to Russia in terms of potential tax revenue. The opportunity cost seems to have dawned on Russian officials as the state slides into financial distress, caused by a mixture of falling oil prices and Western retaliation against its foreign military interventions. Now the government is considering whether to build a legal, regulated online gaming system to boost the tax revenues.

First Deputy Prime Minister Igor Shuvalov has been the main promoter of this potential U-turn. In 2014, he pushed the ministries of Economic Development and Justice to produce a report on legalizing online poker, its taxation and regulation. Now a decision appears to be closer. In a nod to sensitivities about the decline of chess, the government plans to use the tax proceeds that result to fund the National Chess Federation, so that it can foster passion for the game once more.

Another major goal of the project would be to ensure that poker winnings remain in Russia. Marina Bludyan, Chairwoman of the public council of the Poker Enthusiast League, was reported as saying that international operators would be asked to keep data servers in Russia, and forbidden from transferring the data collected abroad. That way they can be made accountable to Russia's tax authorities, while all unregistered sites would be considered illegal, she said.

All this activity has sparked a lively public debate on the morality of poker, much of which has focused on the question of whether the card game should be categorized as one of skill (like chess), or of chance. If it's a game of skill, then legalizing its playing online would be relatively straightforward. If it's a form of gambling, that becomes far more complicated. The government seems to be leaning toward skill.

Kirsan Ilyumzhinov, the multi-millionaire Russian businessman, former president of the Russian Republic of Kalmykia, and head of the World Chess Federation, says that online poker "should be legalized; too many people are involved and are playing online. There are no reasons that it should be hidden and illegal." He has proposed that poker should be included in the International Mind Sports Association -- representing chess, bridge, checkers and the Chinese game of Go -- of which he is also president.

Whatever the niceties of poker's categorization, which has also exercised Dutch courts in the past, legalizing online poker makes sense for Russia. It would boost the government coffers at a time of need. And, by following the French model in which regulatory powers go to the Ministry of Finance, rather than a sporting agency, the government could do much to ensure the resulting revenues don't get waylaid by oligarchs.

In any case, it's clear that the presumed goal of criminalization -- to discourage the game's spread in Russia -- is not being achieved. Despite being widely considered less prestigious than chess, online poker's potential financial rewards ensure the game's continued popularity. Making online poker illegal has done nothing to prevent Russians from playing on websites that belong to foreign companies, or to Russian ones registered abroad. The sole impact of legalization would be to bring that business onshore.

And who knows, maybe poker will become the 21st-century equivalent for Russians of Soviet chess -- played across the nation's parks and producing an array of globe-trotting champions, who are treasured at home and ambassadors for Russian intellectual prowess abroad.

Gregory Mathieu is a former Belgian diplomat and the current director of the Brussels-based Foundation for Democracy and Governance.



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Chess having a long history. Maybe it's time for some poker. Time will tell.
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If the U.S. online poker industry was a baseball team, then the recent launch of PokerStars in New Jersey was akin to the manager calling his injured top slugger off the bench to pinch hit in Game 7 of the World Series.

Basically, it wasn’t over, but U.S. online poker needed a bit of momentum.

With no discernible progress since 2013, the U.S. online poker market was in desperate need of an injection of enthusiasm.

Rather than more operators launching, the market has been winnowed to just two active operators across the three states that have legalized online poker: Nevada, Delaware, and New Jersey. (That number increases to three if we include the largely inconsequential Real Gaming in Nevada.)

But in the words of Yoda, “there is another,” or more accurately, others.

There are several potential operators sitting on the sidelines, waiting for the right conditions to launch a legal online poker site in the United States.



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There is expected to be a vote on online poker bill AB 2863 at today's California Assembly Governmental Organization Committee (GO) hearing, according to Eric Johnson, chief consultant for the committee.

Assemblyman Adam Gray, who chairs the committee, had his online poker bill pass through GO last year, but under much different circumstances. That bill was just a shell bill, a placeholder that was passed on good faith before a deadline to move bills out of the committee in order to allow for continued discussion.

This is fully fledged legislation, with the controversial addition of an annual $60 million stipend for the horse racing industry in exchange for giving up its right to be operators. And since the bill has an urgency clause, there is no need for it to pass this month unless it is ready.

If this bill passes, it will be the first real advancement of online poker legislation in California.

The hearing is scheduled for 1:30 p.m. PDT at the State Capitol, Room 4202, in Sacramento. It should be viewable here at that time.

Since this is a hearing on a particular bill as opposed to an informational hearing, there are no set speakers or agenda. Anyone there who signs up will be allowed to speak.

Poker Players Alliance executive director John Pappas has indicated that he will be speaking. Robyn Black, a lobbyist for the California Thoroughbred Breeders Association, said that horse racing will be represented by thoroughbred owner Mike Pegram, breeder John Harris and Hall of Fame jockey Alex Solis. There will surely be many of representatives from California's Indian tribes and card clubs adding their two cents.

The two things to watch for at the hearing are how the Indian tribes will respond to the legislation's $60 million figure for horse racing, and if the desire for a bad-actor clause will be quelled by PokerStars' approval in New Jersey or ignited once again due to the allegations against parent company Amaya Gaming's CEO David Baazov made by Canadian securities regulators.

Assemblyman Gray told PokerNews last month that the $60 million number was not up for negotiation.

"We still believe we're entitled to being operators, but we were tired of being a stumbling block," Black said. "The bottom line is the people of California need internet poker regulations."




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California’s latest online poker bill received a favorable vote in the state Assembly Governmental Organization Committee on Wednesday, but the thorny question of ‘bad actors’ has yet to be resolved.

Following over two hours of testimony and debate, Assemblyman Adam Gray’s AB 2863 passed by a vote of 18-0, although a few pols qualified that they might vote differently on the Assembly floor if the bill’s kinks weren’t worked out. Chief among these kinks is determining the specific parameters of what defines a ‘bad actor.’
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Among the many weighty questions that Russia's government has struggled with in recent months -- of war and peace, budget cuts and sanctions -- is this one: Is poker a game of skill or chance?

The answer is far from trivial. It will go a long way to determining whether Russia can legalize online poker, and so bring the craze for the game which has swept the nation in recent years within reach of the nation's tax collectors. It's a debate that's closely bound up with the fate of Russia's proud traditions in chess.

During the Soviet era, chess tables could be seen in every Russian or eastern European park, with dozens of players lost in concentration. Cheap and egalitarian, chess became the Soviet Union’s leading "sport" of the mind, producing more champions than any other nation on earth. Celebrities at home, they traveled the world.

And yet, just 25 years later, chess has been nudged almost into the margins of ex-Soviet society -- by nakedly mercenary poker.

For many chess players, the card game of American folklore and gangster movies has become a life changer. Their composure and intelligence, their ability to quickly evaluate a situation and calculate options, to absorb theory and concentrate for hours at a time make them outstanding poker players, too. The big difference is that when they play cards, they stand to win substantial amounts of money.

Although online poker is illegal in Russia, the game has spread rapidly. A poll in 2013 found that 16 percent of Russians (or 20 million people) played poker, up five percentage points from just two years earlier. That proportion is probably higher again today, three years on. Pokerstars – the world’s largest online operator - reports that Russians account for 8.4 percent of all users of its on sites, second only to the U.S. Dmitry Andreikin, born in the Russia Soviet Federative Socialist Republic in 1990, and currently fifth in the World Chess Federation's ranking for Russia, is among the converts. So is Almira Skripchenko, born in the Moldovan Soviet Socialist Republic in 1976. She takes part in the World Series of Poker, among other tournaments.

That so much economic activity is happening on foreign websites represents a loss to Russia in terms of potential tax revenue. The opportunity cost seems to have dawned on Russian officials as the state slides into financial distress, caused by a mixture of falling oil prices and Western retaliation against its foreign military interventions. Now the government is considering whether to build a legal, regulated online gaming system to boost the tax revenues.

First Deputy Prime Minister Igor Shuvalov has been the main promoter of this potential U-turn. In 2014, he pushed the ministries of Economic Development and Justice to produce a report on legalizing online poker, its taxation and regulation. Now a decision appears to be closer. In a nod to sensitivities about the decline of chess, the government plans to use the tax proceeds that result to fund the National Chess Federation, so that it can foster passion for the game once more.

Another major goal of the project would be to ensure that poker winnings remain in Russia. Marina Bludyan, Chairwoman of the public council of the Poker Enthusiast League, was reported as saying that international operators would be asked to keep data servers in Russia, and forbidden from transferring the data collected abroad. That way they can be made accountable to Russia's tax authorities, while all unregistered sites would be considered illegal, she said.

All this activity has sparked a lively public debate on the morality of poker, much of which has focused on the question of whether the card game should be categorized as one of skill (like chess), or of chance. If it's a game of skill, then legalizing its playing online would be relatively straightforward. If it's a form of gambling, that becomes far more complicated. The government seems to be leaning toward skill.





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High stakes online poker has high variance. One month you’re on top of the world, scoring a six-figure profit. The next month you’re asking your friends for beer money. Such is life for players such as Phil Ivey, Dan Cates, and Viktor Blom.

The month of April was no different for some of those players, and others. But the most positive results were that of Ben “Sauce123” Sulsky. His PokerStars account won more than anyone else online last month with a $164.642 profit.

It wasn’t the first time Sauce has won big. In fact, his $164,642 profit in April was only a small percentage of his lifetime online earnings. Currently, he was won more than $4.5 million lifetime on PokerStars in 605,000 hands.

He earns more than $7.50, on average, every hand he plays. That’s quite an impressive accomplishment even for a high stakes player. His main game is pot-limit Omaha.

Other notable names on the April top list include philivey2694, otherwise known as Isaac Haxton (no, not the real Phil Ivey), and Brian “aba20” Townsend.

Big Names and Big Losers

If your name is Viktor Blom or Daniel Cates, you had a rough month. Cates, more commonly referred to as “Jungleman”, plays under the screen name of w00ki3z on PokerStars. He dropped $106,124 last month.

Cates wasn’t the biggest loser, however. That dubious distinction goes to flong78. His, or her, birth name is unknown but this PokerStars account, which has been active since 2013, lost $279,134 in April. Ouch.

Prior to this past month, flong78 was almost a break-even player. But now after more than 206,000 hands, the account has lost almost $290,000. Although Isildur is a lifetime big winner, his crazy style of play has led to some major swings throughout the years. He plays on both Full Tilt and PokerStars.



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Bet365 Poker is the place to be during the month of May because this is where you will find the €100K Spring Missions promotion.

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These packages award their winners a $1,500 Monster Stack entry, seven nights’ accommodation (June 23-30) at Treasure Island Hotel Casino, a bus tour, a show, farewell party, and €2,200 to cover their travel and other expenses.

There are both daily and weekly missions to complete during the €100K Spring Mission promotion. Players are invited to complete these missions and will receive tournament tokens as a reward. They can also enter their choice of two daily €1,000 freerolls, with prizes worth more than €11,000 to be won in the bigger weekly freerolls.
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While playing a high volume of hands can help you improve when playing at these low stakes, sometimes it is better to choose quality over quantity, especially when you are still essentially learning the ropes. By playing fewer tables, you can concentrate on the action to a higher degree and be able to exploit any patterns or weaknesses that your opponents show.

You should also try to sit at a table that suits your style of play. Nobody wants to be seated at a six-handed table with five opponents who all play like rocks. By cutting down on the number of tables you play, you can spend a little more time picking the perfect table for you, and choose a seat more carefully to increase your chances of having position on the weaker players already seated.
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French online poker liquidity sharing could soon be a reality. The country’s Senate has added an amendment to its online gambling regulations that would enable gaming operators in France to share player pools with other European countries. It’s hoped that the move will put an end to the negative spiral for online poker revenue in France, which has been blamed on the self-asphyxiating model adopted by the country when it opted to regulate and ring-fence back in 2011.

This makes it easy for foreigners to resist the temptation to join. Even worse, it discourages the French from participating in their own market, as the amendment acknowledged this week.

The news was welcomed by ARJEL, which has campaigned for several years to have the rules changed.

In 2013, the French National Assembly voted against a similar amendment, with Socialist Party deputy Razzy Hammadi declaring that European shared liquidity would turn online poker into an “uncontrollable ogre eating one market after the other.” Poker was, he added, simply “a little out of fashion.”

The amendments will soon be presented to the National Assembly for approval once again, where it’s hoped politicians have begun to grasp the bigger picture.



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Legalizing online poker has been discussed for years in California, and across the United States. This isn’t even the first year an online poker bill passed an Assembly committee vote. But it is the first year Feinstein has issued an opinion on the potential dangers of legalized online poker.

Why it has suddenly becoming a matter of import to the senator is anyone’s guess. There isn’t a definitive answer, because she hasn’t addressed the timing of her concerns on this issue publicly. It could simply be that she’s finally speaking up in the year where the push to legalize poker on the Internet has built up more momentum than ever before.

The Golden State poker community will be hoping not many other prominent politicians join her outlook.



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The recent introduction of and online-poker regulatory bill in the Michigan Legislature may have surprised many casual industry observers and poker players, though the state has long been part of a group of US states where legalizing some form off intrastate online poker has always been a reasonable possibility.

However, the actual introduction of Senate Bill 889, along with a reasonably favorable political environment in the state, now places Michigan among the most likely states for near-future regulation — say, within the next years — of the online game. Still, not much has been written to date about the specifics of the new Michigan measure, so we’ll catch up with that here.

Staffers for SB 889’s primary Senate sponsor, Mike Kowall, have recently released a bill analysis detailing its primary elements. Per that update, SB 889, titled the “Lawful Internet Gaming Act, would do the following:




Allow internet wagering to the extent that it was carried out in accordance with the proposed Act.
Create the Division of Internet Gaming in the Michigan Gaming Control Board, with specified powers to execute the Act.
Allow the Division to issue applicants an internet gaming license if they met certain criteria, and establish the process for an applicant to acquire an internet gaming license.
Prescribe a $100,000 application fee and a $5.0 million license fee for an internet gaming license, and provide that a license fee would be an advance payment of internet wagering taxes.
Allow an internet gaming license to be issued only to a casino licensee or, under certain conditions, to a Michigan Indian tribe that operates a gaming facility.
Limit the number of internet gaming licenses that could be issued to eight.
Allow internet gaming licensees to offer wagering on internet games.
Allow the Division to certify internet gaming vendors to provide goods, software, or services to internet gaming licensees; establish the process for an applicant to become certified as a vendor; and require an application fee of up to $100,000.
Provide that a license or certification would be valid for five years and could be renewed for additional five-year periods.
Prescribe misdemeanor penalties for violations associated with the application process for an internet gaming license or internet gaming vendor certification.
Impose a tax of 10% on the gross gaming revenue received by an internet gaming licensee from internet games authorized under the Act.
Require an internet gaming licensee to have adequate gaming participant verification measures, including mechanisms to detect and prevent fraud, money laundering, and collusion.
Require the Division to develop responsible gaming measures, including a statewide responsible gaming database identifying individuals who were prohibited from establishing an internet wagering account or participating in internet gaming.
Allow a wager to be accepted from an individual not physically present in the State if certain conditions were met.
Create the “Internet Gaming Fund” and require fees and taxes to be deposited into the Fund.
Require money in the Fund to be spent, on appropriation, for purposes specified by the Legislature.



The proposed limit of eight online licenses has already been described by State Sen. Kowall as entirely arbitrary at this point. Michigan, as with many other states, includes both tribal and non-tribal gaming, though the state is less likely to suffer from the sort of contentious political in-fighting, driven largely by a subset of tribal interests, that has derailed similar legislation in California for nearly a decade.

The five-year licensing term, $100,000 application fee, and initial $5 million license fee (to be applied against taxes owed on gaming revenue) guarantee that only the largest industry players in the state are likely to take the plunge.

Michigan’s legislators have less solid answers to work with when looking at one of the most important issues connected with SB 899, that being its fiscal impact. The recent bill analysis for SB 899 concludes with a “Fiscal Impact” section in which its author cedes that, “At this time, it is difficult to accurately estimate the impact of internet gaming revenue on State revenue.”

The authoring staffer also wonders openly about the possible of online gambling partially cannibalizing other Michigan gambling revenue streams, despite the experience of other jurisdictions offering analyses and research showing that online gambling largely opens up a new and separate source of revenue. Nonetheless, Michigan legislators are unlikely to repeat the blue-sky gaming projections that preceded New Jersey’s legalization of online gambling in 2013.





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France’s regulated online gambling market experienced its single largest year-on-year gain in sports betting and the highest quarterly wagering total yet recorded.

According to figures released Monday by French regulator ARJEL, online sports betting handle in the three months ending March 31 reached €516m, up a whopping 47% from the same period last year. Total online sports revenue by French-licensed operators improved by 30% to €82m.

ARJEL credited the sports betting gains to a 2.1-point rise in betting returns to players, which the regulator believes encouraged punters to reinvest their winnings, as did a 75% year-on-year increase in bonus offers. The numbers were also given a jolt courtesy of a 34% rise in the number of weekly active betting accounts.

Every single individual sport enjoyed solid gains in Q1, with football stakes rising 45%, tennis up 46%, basketball rising 57% and rugby gaining 71%, while hockey more than doubled year-on-year.

Sports betting’s gain was horseracing’s loss, as racing handle fell 7% year-on-year to €247m while revenue fell 5% to €66m. ARJEL notes that the pace of racing’s decline is accelerating, and the declines are all the more notable considering that the number of weekly actives actually rose 1% in Q1, leading ARJEL to conclude that race bettors are simply placing smaller and smaller wagers.

As for poker, the French market’s ugly stepchild managed a rare revenue increase – albeit a modest 2% gain to €62m – the first year-on-year revenue gain the vertical has posted since Q3 2011. The gains came courtesy of rising tournament fees, which were up 17% to €500m. By contrast, cash game stakes continue to plummet, falling 7% to €953m.

The poker revenue gains were aided by a 2% decline in the volume of bonus offers sites made to players. Despite this stinginess, the volume of weekly active player accounts rose 4.4% to 257k.

ARJEL noted that the ranks of cash game players fell by 9k from Q1 2015 to 315k in Q1 2016. The number of players who spent less than €100 playing cash games was up two points while those who spent between €100-€300 and between €300-€1k both declined one point.

The volume of regs who spend over €100k appears to have plateaued, posting relatively stable numbers over the past three quarters. However, tournament players who spent over €50k in entry fees was up 31% year-on-year.

The poker vertical is set to get a further boost now that politicians have finally approved French-licensed sites to share liquidity with licensed operators in other European Union regulated markets, although no timelines for deal with countries like Italy, Spain or Portugal have been floated as of yet.

For the second consecutive quarter, more than half of all digital sports bets were placed via mobile devices. Poker has yet to tip the halfway point but Q1’s 47% mobile share was up seven points year-on-year and represented mobile poker’s highest score to date. Race bettors remain mobile laggards, with its share up only two points to 36%



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The first annual PokerUpdate Online Poker Awards recently concluded. As is the case with any prestigious awards, it hasn’t been without controversy. The past few days, different voices from around the poker community have alleged various “snubs” made by the selection committee when choosing the nominees.



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The first annual PokerUpdate Online Poker Awards recently concluded. As is the case with any prestigious awards, it hasn’t been without controversy. The past few days, different voices from around the poker community have alleged various “snubs” made by the selection committee when choosing the nominees.



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I don't see ixgames.

First Online Poker wow. Only good news today when i read the forum. Beggings are always a good thing 😉
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He bill in Michigan that would legalize and establish regulation for online casino games is expected to become law this year, Card Player was told by the office of Michigan Sen. Mike Kowall, sponsor of the legislation.

Dave Biswas, chief of staff and legislative director for Sen. Kowall, said that there should be one more hearing within “the next few weeks” in the Senate’s Regulatory Reform Committee, and it should move on to the Senate floor. It would like remain there for a week or so before moving on to the House for consideration, he said.

The bill had a hearing early this month, but there wasn’t a vote on the proposal. Biswas said there are a “couple of technical changes” to be made to the bill.

“I don’t see why [the bill] wouldn’t go through this year,” Biswas said.

Michigan’s legislative session goes until December, giving lawmakers ample time to legalize online poker for real money, according to Biswas.

The motivation for the legislation is simple, according to Biswas. It would establish consumer protection, generate tax revenue and create jobs. Kowall said in the hearing that roughly 22,000 new jobs could come from regulated online gaming.

The bill calls for a 10-percent tax on Internet gaming win.

A big benefit to Michigan’s situation is that tribes with casino gaming were upset with the state’s online lottery, Biswas said, so the Internet casino games bill would equal things out. Only tribal and commercial casino operators could run online casinos.

The games could provide a boost for Detroit’s commercial casinos, which won $1.37 billion from gamblers in 2015. That was only about $40 million more than 2014 and still less than was collected from 2010-2012.

Michigan has about a million more people than New Jersey, however the median household income in Michigan is significantly less. The Garden State’s online casinos generated nearly $150 million in revenue last year, which was more than 90 percent of the U.S. total.

It was said during the hearing that Michigan has been studying online casino gaming for the past three years. The state decided to go with the online lottery first, kicking off those games in 2014.

If Michigan legalizes online gaming this year, it would be the first state to do so since 2013. California has tried for the past nine years without success.



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The Russian online poker community took another step backwards recently after a proposal to fine Internet gamblers was drafted by the region of Tatarstan.

The region of Tatarstan is home to more than three million Russians, many of which play poker, but if the local officials have their way then anyone caught playing online will be fined.

According to one of the bill’s sponsors, Rafil Nugumanov of Tatarstan’s State Council, the proposals are designed to curb the effects of problem gambling and make it easier for the government to drive out illegal iGaming operators.

Among the amendments listed in the bill, anyone caught playing online poker from 2017 onwards would be fined between 10,000 and 20,000 Rubles ($150 and $300).

In addition to fining players, the bill will also seek to impose fines on underage gamblers and their parents ($75 to $150) as well as landlords who allow online gambling in properties they rent out ($2,270). As it stands, online poker is illegal in Russia, but despite the laws many players still ante-up on sites based offshore.

In fact, a more accurate assessment of the Russian iGaming market is that it’s unclear at best as an Internet watchdog has the power to block sites, but site owners also have the right to contest these decisions which makes for a very confusing dynamic.

Over the last few years there has been endless talk of regulation in Russia, but so far nothing has materialized.

Back in 2015, a study by the All-Russia Centre for the Study of Public Opinion found that 85 percent of Internet users classed poker as a skill game. This result prompted talk of poker being aligned with chess and tax revenue from the industry being used to fund the National Chess Federation.

This idea resurfaced at the start of 2016 when a proposed law to classify poker as a skill game hit the headlines; unfortunately, there has been little progress on this.

In fact, with a new bill now planning to fine anyone caught gambling online, online poker could be in danger of further vilification in Russia.

Of course, if the government does decide to classify poker as a skill game it would take it out of the new bill’s remit, but until that happens, the game will technically remain illegal within Russia and, therefore, a politically loaded topic.



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The Russian online poker community took another step backwards recently after a proposal to fine Internet gamblers was drafted by the region of Tatarstan.

The region of Tatarstan is home to more than three million Russians, many of which play poker, but if the local officials have their way then anyone caught playing online will be fined.

According to one of the bill’s sponsors, Rafil Nugumanov of Tatarstan’s State Council, the proposals are designed to curb the effects of problem gambling and make it easier for the government to drive out illegal iGaming operators.

Among the amendments listed in the bill, anyone caught playing online poker from 2017 onwards would be fined between 10,000 and 20,000 Rubles ($150 and $300).

In addition to fining players, the bill will also seek to impose fines on underage gamblers and their parents ($75 to $150) as well as landlords who allow online gambling in properties they rent out ($2,270). As it stands, online poker is illegal in Russia, but despite the laws many players still ante-up on sites based offshore.

In fact, a more accurate assessment of the Russian iGaming market is that it’s unclear at best as an Internet watchdog has the power to block sites, but site owners also have the right to contest these decisions which makes for a very confusing dynamic.

Over the last few years there has been endless talk of regulation in Russia, but so far nothing has materialized.

Back in 2015, a study by the All-Russia Centre for the Study of Public Opinion found that 85 percent of Internet users classed poker as a skill game. This result prompted talk of poker being aligned with chess and tax revenue from the industry being used to fund the National Chess Federation.

This idea resurfaced at the start of 2016 when a proposed law to classify poker as a skill game hit the headlines; unfortunately, there has been little progress on this.

In fact, with a new bill now planning to fine anyone caught gambling online, online poker could be in danger of further vilification in Russia.

Of course, if the government does decide to classify poker as a skill game it would take it out of the new bill’s remit, but until that happens, the game will technically remain illegal within Russia and, therefore, a politically loaded topic.



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Let people play poker I don't understand the problem!?
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Let people play poker I don't understand the problem!?

The bill does not become law until it is passed !
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Poland may legalize online poker if the country’s deputy prime minister has his way.

On Sunday, Jarosław Gowin (pictured), Poland’s deputy PM and Minister of Science and Higher Education, held a press conference to offer details on how his Poland Together party would like to amend the country’s 2009 Gambling Act.

The ruling Law and Justice party has yet to deliver its overdue draft of a new gambling bill and Gowin stressed that his proposals were his own, not the government’s. However, Gowin expressed hope that his plans would gain broad support in the Polish parliament.

Gowin is proposing that the current 12% tax on sports betting turnover be replaced by a 20% tax on betting revenue, and 10% of the government’s tax take should be shared with the Polish Olympic Committee and problem gambling initiatives.

Gowin also wants to allow Polish-licensed operators to offer “card games such as poker” over the internet and also to authorize private poker games in people’s homes. At present, poker is only permissible in licensed casinos.

Gowin’s poker plans run contrary to a statement this January by the Ministry of Finance, which claimed that there would be no further expansion of gambling options. But Gowin attempted to distinguish poker and sports betting as less harmful than “hard gambling” products like slots and “casino games.”

Gowin also wants the government to grant itself new powers to combat international operators who continue to serve Polish punters without a local license. Such tools would include the standard (and generally impotent) domain-blocking at the ISP level, as well as the slightly more effective payment-blocking by financial institutions.

Gowin claimed that the country’s “extremely restrictive” gambling laws had surrendered 95% of the online market to so-called ‘grey’ operators. Gowan believes it’s time for “normality and common sense” to prevail and for the government to collect the “hundreds of millions” it was foregoing annually in lost tax revenue.

Appearing alongside Gowin at Sunday’s presser was Polish Football Association president Zbigniew Boniek, who expressed support for Gowin’s plans to open up advertising and sponsorship opportunities for Polish-licensed betting operators with local sports teams. Gowin estimated Polish sport could reap an annual PLN 100m (US $26m) from such deals.



Poland’s Deputy PM Seeks Legal Online Poker | Online Gambling News : CalvinAyre-com
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