Some people like to chase a straight, I like to chase a flush. Are there any odds as to when a flush is worth chasing?
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rcbstuff wrote:
Some people like to chase a straight, I like to chase a flush. Are there any odds as to when a flush is worth chasing?
Some people like to chase a straight, I like to chase a flush. Are there any odds as to when a flush is worth chasing?
Of course, I really like chasing when you have the flush draw plus other draws, maybe a str draw to go with it or two overs if you think your opponent just has top pair. After the flop, the flush draw alone with the 9 outs gives you somewhere around 35% shot at hitting it. Add 3 more outs and you're pretty much a coin flip. If you have the flush draw plus open ended str draw (15 outs) you are the fav going into the turn (60-40). Of course you still have to make your hand, so if you don't hit on the turn, you are no longer the fav. going into the river (30-70). Kinda depends where you are in the tourney, what your chip stack is, what the bet is. I'll usually chase a flush if the bet is less than half the pot, unless I'm short stacked and already put good amount in, then I'll just go for it, figure its my best shot at doubling up. One thing you have to remember when chasing and figuring pot odds after the flop, there is still another round of betting. Some people figure they have pot odds, but the odds of hitting the flush after the flop figure in seeing both turn and river. So if you don't hit on the turn, you going to have to put more in to see the river.
Of course, I really like chasing when you have the flush draw plus other draws, maybe a str draw to go with it or two overs if you think your opponent just has top pair. After the flop, the flush draw alone with the 9 outs gives you somewhere around 35% shot at hitting it. Add 3 more outs and you're pretty much a coin flip. If you have the flush draw plus open ended str draw (15 outs) you are the fav going into the turn (60-40). Of course you still have to make your hand, so if you don't hit on the turn, you are no longer the fav. going into the river (30-70). Kinda depends where you are in the tourney, what your chip stack is, what the bet is. I'll usually chase a flush if the bet is less than half the pot, unless I'm short stacked and already put good amount in, then I'll just go for it, figure its my best shot at doubling up. One thing you have to remember when chasing and figuring pot odds after the flop, there is still another round of betting. Some people figure they have pot odds, but the odds of hitting the flush after the flop figure in seeing both turn and river. So if you don't hit on the turn, you going to have to put more in to see the river.
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madjek wrote:
Some people like to chase a straight, I like to chase a flush. Are there any odds as to when a flush is worth chasing?
Of course, I really like chasing when you have the flush draw plus other draws, maybe a str draw to go with it or two overs if you think your opponent just has top pair. After the flop, the flush draw alone with the 9 outs gives you somewhere around 35% shot at hitting it. Add 3 more outs and you're pretty much a coin flip. If you have the flush draw plus open ended str draw (15 outs) you are the fav going into the turn (60-40). Of course you still have to make your hand, so if you don't hit on the turn, you are no longer the fav. going into the river (30-70). Kinda depends where you are in the tourney, what your chip stack is, what the bet is. I'll usually chase a flush if the bet is less than half the pot, unless I'm short stacked and already put good amount in, then I'll just go for it, figure its my best shot at doubling up. One thing you have to remember when chasing and figuring pot odds after the flop, there is still another round of betting. Some people figure they have pot odds, but the odds of hitting the flush after the flop figure in seeing both turn and river. So if you don't hit on the turn, you going to have to put more in to see the river.
Really nice post on the odds madjek. The only thing I might add is the risk/reward factor. The questions you have to ask yourself in these situations.1) Am I in a position where I need to gamble..ie., Your short stacked and the blinds are crushing you. 2) Do my opponent(s) have enough chips to seriously cripple me if I miss. #3) Am I secure enough in my chip position that I don't need to get involved in a drawing hand, ie., You have 60% chip advantage deep and need not risk any thing to make Final Table. And of course #4) DO you feel lucky punk? well do ya?:1orglaugh
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rcbstuff wrote:
Some people like to chase a straight, I like to chase a flush. Are there any odds as to when a flush is worth chasing?
Some people like to chase a straight, I like to chase a flush. Are there any odds as to when a flush is worth chasing?
To chase a draw you must have the right pot odds, if not then why chase.
That being said I would prefer not to chase a hand be it a straight or a flush.
Chasing is in many cases not the position you want to get yourself into to begin with. A nut flush, if you are Big Stacked or Short Stacked can be an exception if the price is right.
Beat of luck with the broken draws and your chips dwindling away.
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To chase a draw you must have the right pot odds, if not then why chase.
That being said I would prefer not to chase a hand be it a straight or a flush.
Chasing is in many cases not the position you want to get yourself into to begin with. A nut flush, if you are Big Stacked or Short Stacked can be an exception if the price is right.
Beat of luck with the broken draws and your chips dwindling away.
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Roller wrote:
Some people like to chase a straight, I like to chase a flush. Are there any odds as to when a flush is worth chasing?
To chase a draw you must have the right pot odds, if not then why chase.
That being said I would prefer not to chase a hand be it a straight or a flush.
Chasing is in many cases not the position you want to get yourself into to begin with. A nut flush, if you are Big Stacked or Short Stacked can be an exception if the price is right.
Beat of luck with the broken draws and your chips dwindling away.
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Thanks for all the great information
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rcbstuff wrote:
Thanks for all the great information
I go by chasin the flush when also i have a pair or two overs or a butt load of chips. Stick with that and it works out pretty well for me!
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jdefe32 wrote:
I go by chasin the flush when also i have a pair or two overs or a butt load of chips. Stick with that and it works out pretty well for me!
In the small stakes cash games, it's hard not to chase. Often, the implied odds will make it worthwhile. :o
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decker wrote:
In the small stakes cash games, it's hard not to chase. Often, the implied odds will make it worthwhile. :o
I also like to chase flushes; especially in the freerolls and lower stakes games when the blinds are very low. The odds of making the flush is the same no matter what two suited cards you have but the risk you take with lower cards
may not be worth it. You chase, hit the flush, and lose to a higher flush by a opp playing the same "flush" strategy you are and alot of people play "any two suited". I wonder if a Jack high flush wins more than it loses in a flush over flush? anyone know?
may not be worth it. You chase, hit the flush, and lose to a higher flush by a opp playing the same "flush" strategy you are and alot of people play "any two suited". I wonder if a Jack high flush wins more than it loses in a flush over flush? anyone know?
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rcbstuff wrote:
Some people like to chase a straight, I like to chase a flush. Are there any odds as to when a flush is worth chasing?
If there is only one other person in the hand im usually willing for about 1/5 my stack on the turn or about 1/3 with more players. on the river the odds are just against you
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