Is the trap worth it!

Every time I hit the nutz on the flop or turn and have an aggressive player still in it, I try to trap. It seems like almost every time, they suck out. I guess there's nothin to do since if I bet, they'd call anyway. My latest "put me on tilt" suckout, a step 3 sitngo at absolute, down to 5, I'm near the chip lead. Aggressive donkey to my left has been gettin lucky whole tourney and is chip leader. I have and A of diamonds (not suited) and flop is all diamonds and I hit my second card (a Jack) for top pair. I bet (1/2 pot) knowing he'd call. Tried to keep it small enough to look like the diamonds scared me. The turn is a diamond, I pause and check. Of course he puts a pot size bet. I just smooth call. And of course, my only fear, the river pairs the board. I know I'm prob. beat, so I check, he bets huge bet, I have to call, of course he has 8 9 off, for the full house. I beginning to believe online poker uses juiced decks, LOL.

Every time I hit the nutz on the flop or turn and have an aggressive player still in it, I try to trap. It seems like almost every time, they suck out. I guess there's nothin to do since if I bet, they'd call anyway. My latest "put me on tilt" suckout, a step 3 sitngo at absolute, down to 5, I'm near the chip lead. Aggressive donkey to my left has been gettin lucky whole tourney and is chip leader. I have and A of diamonds (not suited) and flop is all diamonds and I hit my second card (a Jack) for top pair. I bet (1/2 pot) knowing he'd call. Tried to keep it small enough to look like the diamonds scared me. The turn is a diamond, I pause and check. Of course he puts a pot size bet. I just smooth call. And of course, my only fear, the river pairs the board. I know I'm prob. beat, so I check, he bets huge bet, I have to call, of course he has 8 9 off, for the full house. I beginning to believe online poker uses juiced decks, LOL.

Very correct tall seas. I had the nut on the turn with a King high straight with no chance of a flush coming up. I push in as many chips as pot limit allows and get that caller. Lickin my chops salivating over a hi payout. Sure enough on the river a second 5 appears. I am still excited with my King high straight, and the other guy has a 55599 full house.

The Nutz

The Perceived Nuts versus the Nuts.
Momentary Nuts.
Positional Nuts.
😉

My point is only that so many players think they are on the receiving end of a bad beat or lose when they think they should win. The nuts are only the nuts on the river. The Board does as it does. Just like AA looks so good, but when there are more cards to be dealt it is nothing more then a pair.

Board texture and the remaining cards are what determine the winning hand.

I never have the nuts until all the cards are dealt.
Nuts on the River.
:thumbsup
At that point try to extract all you can from your remaining opponents.
Then the chips are there way.
Trapping without the nuts >> Gets you what it gets you.
Sometimes a Big Pot is Won.
Sometimes a Big Pot is Lost.

Just my thoughts.

The Nutz

The Perceived Nuts versus the Nuts.
Momentary Nuts.
Positional Nuts.
😉

My point is only that so many players think they are on the receiving end of a bad beat or lose when they think they should win. The nuts are only the nuts on the river. The Board does as it does. Just like AA looks so good, but when there are more cards to be dealt it is nothing more then a pair.

Board texture and the remaining cards are what determine the winning hand.

I never have the nuts until all the cards are dealt.
Nuts on the River.
:thumbsup
At that point try to extract all you can from your remaining opponents.
Then the chips are there way.
Trapping without the nuts >> Gets you what it gets you.
Sometimes a Big Pot is Won.
Sometimes a Big Pot is Lost.

Just my thoughts.

Yep-good points being made. I don't know how many times I have flopped a straight, slow played it, and eventually lost the hand. It seems to happen pretty often, so the "trap" is not a good idea for me when I flop a straight.

Yep-good points being made. I don't know how many times I have flopped a straight, slow played it, and eventually lost the hand. It seems to happen pretty often, so the "trap" is not a good idea for me when I flop a straight.
[FONT=Franklin Gothic Medium]Pretty much the story of my entire night. Every time I tried to slow-play/trap I ended up getting rivered. Ah, well, maybe tomorrow it's my turn to be the river rat. . .
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Seems to always happen. I used to play strong hands super aggressive when I hit the flop, but usually get no callers. So I started trying to trap, and like I said above, getting tired of letting players beat me on the river. Guess the best way is to value bet big hands, at least if you think they sucked out, you still have some chips left. That's why poker is such a great game, so many diffeerent ways to play, they all can work sometimes, just gotta figure out what works best over long haul, maybe a combination. Any one figures it out before me, let me know. LOL

Seems to always happen. I used to play strong hands super aggressive when I hit the flop, but usually get no callers. So I started trying to trap, and like I said above, getting tired of letting players beat me on the river. Guess the best way is to value bet big hands, at least if you think they sucked out, you still have some chips left. That's why poker is such a great game, so many diffeerent ways to play, they all can work sometimes, just gotta figure out what works best over long haul, maybe a combination. Any one figures it out before me, let me know. LOL


I have said it once and ill say it again. It doesnt matter how well you play, it will still boil down to you have to go all in with an acceptable hand, and finding that although you have the stronger hand, the other guy who has 2,7offsuit will flop a full house (unless you happen to be in the designated seat and win.

I love trapping and trying to win a huge pot. But I play on PDC and you have to have a policy of winning a small pot is better than losing a big one. I have seen so many crazy hands occur on that site I do not try to trap very often.

You have to play the trap to make money, sometimes it works. you win some you lose some but, you want action if you hit a good flop. it boils down to how much you bet. ive learned checking is not a good option, you need to put chips in the pot. just enough to keep the weaker hand in.

I love trapping and trying to win a huge pot. But I play on PDC and you have to have a policy of winning a small pot is better than losing a big one. I have seen so many crazy hands occur on that site I do not try to trap very often.

Every time I hit the nutz on the flop or turn and have an aggressive player still in it, I try to trap. It seems like almost every time, they suck out. I guess there's nothin to do since if I bet, they'd call anyway. My latest "put me on tilt" suckout, a step 3 sitngo at absolute, down to 5, I'm near the chip lead. Aggressive donkey to my left has been gettin lucky whole tourney and is chip leader. I have and A of diamonds (not suited) and flop is all diamonds and I hit my second card (a Jack) for top pair. I bet (1/2 pot) knowing he'd call. Tried to keep it small enough to look like the diamonds scared me. The turn is a diamond, I pause and check. Of course he puts a pot size bet. I just smooth call. And of course, my only fear, the river pairs the board. I know I'm prob. beat, so I check, he bets huge bet, I have to call, of course he has 8 9 off, for the full house. I beginning to believe online poker uses juiced decks, LOL.

I love trapping and trying to win a huge pot. But I play on PDC and you have to have a policy of winning a small pot is better than losing a big one. I have seen so many crazy hands occur on that site I do not try to trap very often.

I love trapping and trying to win a huge pot. But I play on PDC and you have to have a policy of winning a small pot is better than losing a big one. I have seen so many crazy hands occur on that site I do not try to trap very often.

I love trapping and trying to win a huge pot. But I play on PDC and you have to have a policy of winning a small pot is better than losing a big one. I have seen so many crazy hands occur on that site I do not try to trap very often.

Every time I hit the nutz on the flop or turn and have an aggressive player still in it, I try to trap. It seems like almost every time, they suck out. I guess there's nothin to do since if I bet, they'd call anyway. My latest "put me on tilt" suckout, a step 3 sitngo at absolute, down to 5, I'm near the chip lead. Aggressive donkey to my left has been gettin lucky whole tourney and is chip leader. I have and A of diamonds (not suited) and flop is all diamonds and I hit my second card (a Jack) for top pair. I bet (1/2 pot) knowing he'd call. Tried to keep it small enough to look like the diamonds scared me. The turn is a diamond, I pause and check. Of course he puts a pot size bet. I just smooth call. And of course, my only fear, the river pairs the board. I know I'm prob. beat, so I check, he bets huge bet, I have to call, of course he has 8 9 off, for the full house. I beginning to believe online poker uses juiced decks, LOL.