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1. American Pharoah - Despite the upset in the Travers, I have no choice to rate this one at the top spot for the Breeders’ Cup Classic. I simply believe that he is the best horse, and the Travers did not change my mind. As I’ve noted before, I think he ran a very good race at Saratoga under adverse conditions. Whether he gets in a prep in between or not, I am expecting that he will arrive at Keeneland ready to run his best, and his final career race should give him every opportunity to prove his greatness once and for all. Running against older horses for the first time, and against a field of this quality, facing a strong early pace, and after a tough race in the Travers, all make this assignment clearly his toughest one to date. If he can check all the boxes and come out triumphant here, it will be the performance that proves our first Triple Crown winner in 37 years is truly a horse that deserves to be remembered for all time.
2. Beholder - Look out boys, this mare is the genuine article. Of course, we knew that all along, but the two-time champion has taken things to a whole new exciting level of late. They say thoroughbred horses do not reach full athletic maturity until they hit the age of five, and Beholder looks to be proving that theory to be true, and as good as she was in the first three seasons of her career, that is a scary proposition for her connections. Beholder will need to prove that she can win one outside of California, as well as the not so small task of handling a field infinitely tougher than she saw at Del Mar, but off of her stellar performance in the ten furlong Pacific Classic, it is fair to wonder if all she will need to do is repeat that performance to walk away with the biggest prize in her excellent career.
3. Honor Code - So they say he is prepping for the Classic in the one-mile Kelso rather than the ten furlong Jockey Club Gold Cup. I don’t presume to know a fraction of what the Hall of Famer Shug McGaughey knows about his horses, but I must admit to being a bit surprised by this choice. It seems getting in a strong prep at the distance would give him the foundation to have his rally strongest at Keeneland. Even if he was defeated in the Jockey Club, I think it would do him plenty of good for a Classic run. It certainly did just that for his sire, A.P. Indy back in 1992. Having said that, the Kelso should bring him to Kentucky a sharp horse, and if the expected fast fractions materialize on October 31, you have to respect the Met Mile and Whitney winner’s ability to pick them up and lay them down in the stretch.
4. Tonalist - It seems like a long time since the 2014 Belmont Stakes and Jockey Club Gold Cup winner actually won a race, but remember he did win the Westchester back on Kentucky Derby day. Despite his current three-race losing streak since, the son of Tapit continues to run well. Perhaps he is just laying in the weeds ready to pounce in the right spot; and you know what? This year’s Classic could be just that spot. He should get plenty of early pace to run at, and unlike the one just above him, Tonalist is certainly proven at the distance. If America’s richest race does indeed set things up for the late runners, Honor Code may have a very tough time running by this one at the extended distance of ten furlongs.
5. Liam’s Map - With both of the top two breathing down his neck early, the Breeders’ Cup Classic would not seem to be an easy spot for this speedy son of Unbridled’s Song, but considering how fantastic he ran in consecutive Grade 1 races this summer at the Spa, it would be hard for his connections to pass on this spot. Sure, he would likely be the one to beat in the Breeders’ Cup Dirt Mile, but I believe that his Whitney and Woodward prove that he can run with anyone right now. Love his chances or not in the Classic, at the very least, he should force the hand of American Pharoah and Beholder at some point in the race, because quality speed like that of Liam’s Map needs to be respected.
6. Keen Ice - Beware the late developing colt. This strapping son of Curlin always had a strong late run, but never seemed to get there. His third in the Belmont, and second in the Haskell were steps in the right direction, and sure enough, he put it all together on the big stage of the Travers. He was benefited by grueling middle fractions which saw Frosted turn the screws on American Pharoah, but in the Classic, he could benefit from the same advantageous softening up of the leaders. There are a few late runners that I still like a bit better, but Keen Ice, proven at the distance and on the improve, could be a dangerous horse to take for granted once again.
7. Frosted - I cannot help but to like this good looking, gray son of Tapit. Since his sharp win in the Grade 1 Wood Memorial, he has run four very good races, only to fall short of victory each time. Of course, much of that can be directly attributed to the presence of one American Pharoah. Frosted has shown the ability to run his race a variety of different ways, and that could come in handy in the big race. I realize that he is not the most likely winner of the Breeders’ Cup Classic, but you never know. He is all quality, and maybe now, without having to be the one to pressure American Pharoah early, he can sit a comfortable middle of the pack trip, and be able to pounce at the right time.
8. Gleneagles - It seems strange to me to have such a wonderful horse, from such solid connections, this low on the list. Gleneagles is pure class. The top juvenile in Europe last year, he is undefeated against Group 1 competition this year. Other horses like this have come over and run very well in the Classic before, but in my mind, he has three big factors going against him in the 2015 edition. Unlike the Raven’s Pass, Henrythenavigator year, this Breeders’ Cup Classic is run on dirt. Gleneagles has never run on
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New odds for Keeneland Breeders' Cup Classic
Despite his Travers Stakes loss, American Pharoah has maintained heavy favoritism now fewer than 50 days out from the Triple Crown winner's anticipated final race, the Breeders' Cup Classic.
Wynn Las Vegas released updated odds this week for the $5 million Classic to run Oct. 31 at Keeneland. It's the richest race in North America and, along with American Pharoah, has automatically qualified mare Beholder, Honor Code, Noble Bird and Hard Aces.
Odds below are listed in alphabetic order. The Wynn requires a $5 minimum wager and does not refund money if a horse fails to run in the Classic. Newly listed horses include Beholder and Social Inclusion.
HORSE | OPEN | CURRENT ODDS
American Pharoah | 50-1 | 3-2
Bayern | 10-1 | 40-1
Beholder | 12-1 | 5-1
Candy Boy | 45-1 | 75-1
Catch a Flight | 75-1 | 15-1
Cigar Street | 22-1 | 40-1
Coach Inge | 60-1 | 50-1
Commissioner | 60-1 | 20-1
Competitive Edge | 75-1 | 100-1
Constitution | 65-1 | 15-1
Dortmund | 22-1 | 20-1
Epiphaneia | 100-1 | 100-1
El Kabeir | 75-1 | 100-1
Elnaawi | 45-1 | 75-1
Effinex | 50-1 | 75-1
Frosted | 50-1 | 14-1
General A Rod | 75-1 | 100-1
Gleneagles | 100-1 | 14-1
Hard Aces | 25-1 | 40-1
Honor Code | 75-1 | 8-1
Hoppertunity | 20-1 | 30-1
Itsaknockout | 50-1 | 125-1
John F Kennedy | 75-1 | 75-1
Keen Ice | 60-1 | 12-1
Lea | 20-1 | 20-1
Liams Map | 75-1 | 15-1
Madefromlucky | 75-1 | 60-1
Matterhorn | 50-1 | 75-1
Mubtaahij | 100-1 | 75-1
Ocean Knight | 60-1 | 85-1
Prince Bishop | 50-1 | 50-1
Prospect Park | 100-1 | 25-1
Protonico | 20-1 | 25-1
Race Day | 50-1 | 75-1
Red Rifle | 40-1 | 60-1
Ride On Curlin | 50-1 | 100-1
Sir Fever | 80-1 | 80-1
Tapiture | 45-1 | 75-1
Texas Red | 60-1 | 12-1
Toast of New York | 25-1 | 25-1
Tonalist | 12-1 | 14-1
Untapable | 35-1 | 125-1
Transparent | 40-1 | 40-1
V.E. Day | 50-1 | 60-1
War Dispatch | 75-1 | 75-1
War Story | 100-1 | 100-1
Wicked Strong | 20-1 | 25-1
Wise Dan | 20-1 | 50-1 (retired Sunday)
Social Inclusion | 40-1 | 40-1
Breeders' Cup 2015 | Updated Classic odds for American Pharoah, others at Keeneland
Despite his Travers Stakes loss, American Pharoah has maintained heavy favoritism now fewer than 50 days out from the Triple Crown winner's anticipated final race, the Breeders' Cup Classic.
Wynn Las Vegas released updated odds this week for the $5 million Classic to run Oct. 31 at Keeneland. It's the richest race in North America and, along with American Pharoah, has automatically qualified mare Beholder, Honor Code, Noble Bird and Hard Aces.
Odds below are listed in alphabetic order. The Wynn requires a $5 minimum wager and does not refund money if a horse fails to run in the Classic. Newly listed horses include Beholder and Social Inclusion.
HORSE | OPEN | CURRENT ODDS
American Pharoah | 50-1 | 3-2
Bayern | 10-1 | 40-1
Beholder | 12-1 | 5-1
Candy Boy | 45-1 | 75-1
Catch a Flight | 75-1 | 15-1
Cigar Street | 22-1 | 40-1
Coach Inge | 60-1 | 50-1
Commissioner | 60-1 | 20-1
Competitive Edge | 75-1 | 100-1
Constitution | 65-1 | 15-1
Dortmund | 22-1 | 20-1
Epiphaneia | 100-1 | 100-1
El Kabeir | 75-1 | 100-1
Elnaawi | 45-1 | 75-1
Effinex | 50-1 | 75-1
Frosted | 50-1 | 14-1
General A Rod | 75-1 | 100-1
Gleneagles | 100-1 | 14-1
Hard Aces | 25-1 | 40-1
Honor Code | 75-1 | 8-1
Hoppertunity | 20-1 | 30-1
Itsaknockout | 50-1 | 125-1
John F Kennedy | 75-1 | 75-1
Keen Ice | 60-1 | 12-1
Lea | 20-1 | 20-1
Liams Map | 75-1 | 15-1
Madefromlucky | 75-1 | 60-1
Matterhorn | 50-1 | 75-1
Mubtaahij | 100-1 | 75-1
Ocean Knight | 60-1 | 85-1
Prince Bishop | 50-1 | 50-1
Prospect Park | 100-1 | 25-1
Protonico | 20-1 | 25-1
Race Day | 50-1 | 75-1
Red Rifle | 40-1 | 60-1
Ride On Curlin | 50-1 | 100-1
Sir Fever | 80-1 | 80-1
Tapiture | 45-1 | 75-1
Texas Red | 60-1 | 12-1
Toast of New York | 25-1 | 25-1
Tonalist | 12-1 | 14-1
Untapable | 35-1 | 125-1
Transparent | 40-1 | 40-1
V.E. Day | 50-1 | 60-1
War Dispatch | 75-1 | 75-1
War Story | 100-1 | 100-1
Wicked Strong | 20-1 | 25-1
Wise Dan | 20-1 | 50-1 (retired Sunday)
Social Inclusion | 40-1 | 40-1
Breeders' Cup 2015 | Updated Classic odds for American Pharoah, others at Keeneland
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New odds for Keeneland Breeders' Cup Classic
Despite his Travers Stakes loss, American Pharoah has maintained heavy favoritism now fewer than 50 days out from the Triple Crown winner's anticipated final race, the Breeders' Cup Classic.
Wynn Las Vegas released updated odds this week for the $5 million Classic to run Oct. 31 at Keeneland. It's the richest race in North America and, along with American Pharoah, has automatically qualified mare Beholder, Honor Code, Noble Bird and Hard Aces.
Odds below are listed in alphabetic order. The Wynn requires a $5 minimum wager and does not refund money if a horse fails to run in the Classic. Newly listed horses include Beholder and Social Inclusion.
HORSE | OPEN | CURRENT ODDS
American Pharoah | 50-1 | 3-2
Bayern | 10-1 | 40-1
Beholder | 12-1 | 5-1
Candy Boy | 45-1 | 75-1
Catch a Flight | 75-1 | 15-1
Cigar Street | 22-1 | 40-1
Coach Inge | 60-1 | 50-1
Commissioner | 60-1 | 20-1
Competitive Edge | 75-1 | 100-1
Constitution | 65-1 | 15-1
Dortmund | 22-1 | 20-1
Epiphaneia | 100-1 | 100-1
El Kabeir | 75-1 | 100-1
Elnaawi | 45-1 | 75-1
Effinex | 50-1 | 75-1
Frosted | 50-1 | 14-1
General A Rod | 75-1 | 100-1
Gleneagles | 100-1 | 14-1
Hard Aces | 25-1 | 40-1
Honor Code | 75-1 | 8-1
Hoppertunity | 20-1 | 30-1
Itsaknockout | 50-1 | 125-1
John F Kennedy | 75-1 | 75-1
Keen Ice | 60-1 | 12-1
Lea | 20-1 | 20-1
Liams Map | 75-1 | 15-1
Madefromlucky | 75-1 | 60-1
Matterhorn | 50-1 | 75-1
Mubtaahij | 100-1 | 75-1
Ocean Knight | 60-1 | 85-1
Prince Bishop | 50-1 | 50-1
Prospect Park | 100-1 | 25-1
Protonico | 20-1 | 25-1
Race Day | 50-1 | 75-1
Red Rifle | 40-1 | 60-1
Ride On Curlin | 50-1 | 100-1
Sir Fever | 80-1 | 80-1
Tapiture | 45-1 | 75-1
Texas Red | 60-1 | 12-1
Toast of New York | 25-1 | 25-1
Tonalist | 12-1 | 14-1
Untapable | 35-1 | 125-1
Transparent | 40-1 | 40-1
V.E. Day | 50-1 | 60-1
War Dispatch | 75-1 | 75-1
War Story | 100-1 | 100-1
Wicked Strong | 20-1 | 25-1
Wise Dan | 20-1 | 50-1 (retired Sunday)
Social Inclusion | 40-1 | 40-1
Breeders' Cup 2015 | Updated Classic odds for American Pharoah, others at Keeneland
Gleneagles the Irish-bred turf star, as with American Pharoah, has a Coolmore connection. But that doesn't seem to be a problem as he targets an overseas trip to the Classic for trainer Aidan O'Brien, who last won at the Breeders' Cup with Magician in the 2013 Turf.
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Gleneagles the Irish-bred turf star, as with American Pharoah, has a Coolmore connection. But that doesn't seem to be a problem as he targets an overseas trip to the Classic for trainer Aidan O'Brien, who last won at the Breeders' Cup with Magician in the 2013 Turf.
The $5 million Breeders' Cup Classic will run Oct. 31 at Keeneland Race Course, Lexington, Ky.
Last year's Breeders' Cup Classic winner Bayern is at odds of 16/1 at Bovada Sportsbook
Last year's Breeders' Cup Classic winner Bayern is at odds of 16/1 at Bovada Sportsbook
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The $5 million Breeders' Cup Classic will run Oct. 31 at Keeneland Race Course, Lexington, Ky.
Last year's Breeders' Cup Classic winner Bayern is at odds of 16/1 at Bovada Sportsbook
Last year's Breeders' Cup Juvenile winner, Texas Red, sat out Triple Crown season due to a foot abscess. Now he'll miss this year's Breeders' Cup with another ailment, co-owner Erich Brehm announced Thursday.
Off a fifth-place finish in the Grade I Travers, a nuclear scan discovered a cannon bone bruise. Brehm tweeted that 60-90 days of paddock exercise was diagnosed by a vet.
"We're going to give him the rest of the year off to heal properly and look forward to an exciting 2016," Brehm said.
Connections were rewarded with their patience earlier this year after the foot bruising forced Texas Red to miss the peak of Derby prep season on through the Belmont Stakes. In his second start back, the colt trained by Keith Desormeaux won Saratoga's Grade II Jim Dandy in a stretch duel over Frosted.
The son of Afleet Alex then turned in a dismal Travers performance as the second betting choice behind American Pharoah.
Read more: Breeders' Cup Classic contender Texas Red done for the year
Off a fifth-place finish in the Grade I Travers, a nuclear scan discovered a cannon bone bruise. Brehm tweeted that 60-90 days of paddock exercise was diagnosed by a vet.
"We're going to give him the rest of the year off to heal properly and look forward to an exciting 2016," Brehm said.
Connections were rewarded with their patience earlier this year after the foot bruising forced Texas Red to miss the peak of Derby prep season on through the Belmont Stakes. In his second start back, the colt trained by Keith Desormeaux won Saratoga's Grade II Jim Dandy in a stretch duel over Frosted.
The son of Afleet Alex then turned in a dismal Travers performance as the second betting choice behind American Pharoah.
Read more: Breeders' Cup Classic contender Texas Red done for the year
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Last year's Breeders' Cup Juvenile winner, Texas Red, sat out Triple Crown season due to a foot abscess. Now he'll miss this year's Breeders' Cup with another ailment, co-owner Erich Brehm announced Thursday.
Off a fifth-place finish in the Grade I Travers, a nuclear scan discovered a cannon bone bruise. Brehm tweeted that 60-90 days of paddock exercise was diagnosed by a vet.
"We're going to give him the rest of the year off to heal properly and look forward to an exciting 2016," Brehm said.
Connections were rewarded with their patience earlier this year after the foot bruising forced Texas Red to miss the peak of Derby prep season on through the Belmont Stakes. In his second start back, the colt trained by Keith Desormeaux won Saratoga's Grade II Jim Dandy in a stretch duel over Frosted.
The son of Afleet Alex then turned in a dismal Travers performance as the second betting choice behind American Pharoah.
Read more: Breeders' Cup Classic contender Texas Red done for the year
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American Pharoah back on track
Triple Crown winner American Pharoah returned to the worktab for the first time since his runner-up finish in the Aug. 29 Travers Stakes when he breezed an easy half in :49 4/5 seconds at Santa Anita Park.
The 3-year-old son of Pioneerof the Nile was under jockey Martin Garcia, his regular workout rider, for the move.
American Pharoah is expected to train up to a start in the Oct. 31 Breeders' Cup Classic to be run at Keeneland, and will likely stable at Churchill Downs for Hall of Fame trainer Bob Baffert in the weeks leading up to the World Championships. He is nominated to the Sept. 26 Lukas Classic at Churchill, but is not expected to run there.
Owner Ahmed Zayat of Zayat Stables reported the Triple Crown winner's first work back since the Travers was "Exactly what we wanted."
A Travers upset by 16-1 shot Keen Ice snapped an eight-race win streak for American Pharoah. It was his first defeat of 2015 and only his second loss in 10 career starts. He is slated to be retired to Ashford Stud near Lexington once his racing career is done.
American Pharoah back to work after travers
Triple Crown winner American Pharoah returned to the worktab for the first time since his runner-up finish in the Aug. 29 Travers Stakes when he breezed an easy half in :49 4/5 seconds at Santa Anita Park.
The 3-year-old son of Pioneerof the Nile was under jockey Martin Garcia, his regular workout rider, for the move.
American Pharoah is expected to train up to a start in the Oct. 31 Breeders' Cup Classic to be run at Keeneland, and will likely stable at Churchill Downs for Hall of Fame trainer Bob Baffert in the weeks leading up to the World Championships. He is nominated to the Sept. 26 Lukas Classic at Churchill, but is not expected to run there.
Owner Ahmed Zayat of Zayat Stables reported the Triple Crown winner's first work back since the Travers was "Exactly what we wanted."
A Travers upset by 16-1 shot Keen Ice snapped an eight-race win streak for American Pharoah. It was his first defeat of 2015 and only his second loss in 10 career starts. He is slated to be retired to Ashford Stud near Lexington once his racing career is done.
American Pharoah back to work after travers
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American Pharoah back on track
Triple Crown winner American Pharoah returned to the worktab for the first time since his runner-up finish in the Aug. 29 Travers Stakes when he breezed an easy half in :49 4/5 seconds at Santa Anita Park.
The 3-year-old son of Pioneerof the Nile was under jockey Martin Garcia, his regular workout rider, for the move.
American Pharoah is expected to train up to a start in the Oct. 31 Breeders' Cup Classic to be run at Keeneland, and will likely stable at Churchill Downs for Hall of Fame trainer Bob Baffert in the weeks leading up to the World Championships. He is nominated to the Sept. 26 Lukas Classic at Churchill, but is not expected to run there.
Owner Ahmed Zayat of Zayat Stables reported the Triple Crown winner's first work back since the Travers was "Exactly what we wanted."
A Travers upset by 16-1 shot Keen Ice snapped an eight-race win streak for American Pharoah. It was his first defeat of 2015 and only his second loss in 10 career starts. He is slated to be retired to Ashford Stud near Lexington once his racing career is done.
American Pharoah back to work after travers
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Breeders’ Cup Classic 2015: Latest odds for American Pharoah, field
Triple Crown and William Hill Haskell Invitational winner American Pharoah is a heavy favorite to win the Breeders’ Cup Classic despite his Travers Stakes loss.
With less than five weeks to go, here are the updated odds for the $5 million Classic which will be run on Oct. 31 at Keeneland.
American Pharoah 3-2
Bayern 40-1
Beholder 11-2
Candy Boy 80-1
Catch a Flight 24-1
Cigar Street 40-1
Coach Inge 45-1
Commissioner 24-1
Competitive Edge 100-1
Constitution 23-1
Dortmund 24-1
Epiphaneia 100-1
El Kabeir 100-1
Elnaawi 80-1
Effinex 80-1
Frosted 14-1
General A Rod 100-1
Gleneagles 13-1
Hard Aces 45-1
Honor Code 8-1
Hoppertunity 45-1
Itsaknockout 100-1
John F Kennedy 80-1
Keen Ice 7-1
Lea 10-1
Liams Map 14-1
Madefromlucky 55-1
Matterhorn 70-1
Mubtaahij 70-1
Ocean Knight 90-1
Prince Bishop 50-1
Prospect Park 24-1
Protonico 28-1
Race Day 85-1
Red Rifle 55-1
Ride On Curlin 90-1
Sir Fever 80-1
Tapiture 80-1
Toast of New York 28-1
Tonalist 10-1
Untapable 100-1
Transparent 45-1
War Dispatch 80-1
Wicked Strong 24-1
Social Inclusion 35-1
Triple Crown and William Hill Haskell Invitational winner American Pharoah is a heavy favorite to win the Breeders' Cup Classic !!
Triple Crown and William Hill Haskell Invitational winner American Pharoah is a heavy favorite to win the Breeders’ Cup Classic despite his Travers Stakes loss.
With less than five weeks to go, here are the updated odds for the $5 million Classic which will be run on Oct. 31 at Keeneland.
American Pharoah 3-2
Bayern 40-1
Beholder 11-2
Candy Boy 80-1
Catch a Flight 24-1
Cigar Street 40-1
Coach Inge 45-1
Commissioner 24-1
Competitive Edge 100-1
Constitution 23-1
Dortmund 24-1
Epiphaneia 100-1
El Kabeir 100-1
Elnaawi 80-1
Effinex 80-1
Frosted 14-1
General A Rod 100-1
Gleneagles 13-1
Hard Aces 45-1
Honor Code 8-1
Hoppertunity 45-1
Itsaknockout 100-1
John F Kennedy 80-1
Keen Ice 7-1
Lea 10-1
Liams Map 14-1
Madefromlucky 55-1
Matterhorn 70-1
Mubtaahij 70-1
Ocean Knight 90-1
Prince Bishop 50-1
Prospect Park 24-1
Protonico 28-1
Race Day 85-1
Red Rifle 55-1
Ride On Curlin 90-1
Sir Fever 80-1
Tapiture 80-1
Toast of New York 28-1
Tonalist 10-1
Untapable 100-1
Transparent 45-1
War Dispatch 80-1
Wicked Strong 24-1
Social Inclusion 35-1
Triple Crown and William Hill Haskell Invitational winner American Pharoah is a heavy favorite to win the Breeders' Cup Classic !!
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Breeders’ Cup Classic 2015: Latest odds for American Pharoah, field
Triple Crown and William Hill Haskell Invitational winner American Pharoah is a heavy favorite to win the Breeders’ Cup Classic despite his Travers Stakes loss.
With less than five weeks to go, here are the updated odds for the $5 million Classic which will be run on Oct. 31 at Keeneland.
American Pharoah 3-2
Bayern 40-1
Beholder 11-2
Candy Boy 80-1
Catch a Flight 24-1
Cigar Street 40-1
Coach Inge 45-1
Commissioner 24-1
Competitive Edge 100-1
Constitution 23-1
Dortmund 24-1
Epiphaneia 100-1
El Kabeir 100-1
Elnaawi 80-1
Effinex 80-1
Frosted 14-1
General A Rod 100-1
Gleneagles 13-1
Hard Aces 45-1
Honor Code 8-1
Hoppertunity 45-1
Itsaknockout 100-1
John F Kennedy 80-1
Keen Ice 7-1
Lea 10-1
Liams Map 14-1
Madefromlucky 55-1
Matterhorn 70-1
Mubtaahij 70-1
Ocean Knight 90-1
Prince Bishop 50-1
Prospect Park 24-1
Protonico 28-1
Race Day 85-1
Red Rifle 55-1
Ride On Curlin 90-1
Sir Fever 80-1
Tapiture 80-1
Toast of New York 28-1
Tonalist 10-1
Untapable 100-1
Transparent 45-1
War Dispatch 80-1
Wicked Strong 24-1
Social Inclusion 35-1
Triple Crown and William Hill Haskell Invitational winner American Pharoah is a heavy favorite to win the Breeders' Cup Classic !!
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Beholder On Track For Classic Run
With weather coast-to-coast wreaking havoc on firm shipping plans and workout schedules, Richard Mandella, known for running an ultra-tight ship, has matters pretty much under control for Beholder and her expected engagement in the Breeders’ Cup Classic at Keeneland on Oct. 31.
Face it: Mandella’s middle name is “Organized.”
Beholder, a winner of two Eclipse Awards and in prime pouncing position to earn her third, should work this week for a likely start in the $5 million Classic in what could be a showdown for Horse of the Year honors with Triple Crown winner American Pharoah.
“She came out of her race great,” Mandella said of the 3 ¼-length romp by Beholder in the Sept. 26 Zenyatta Stakes, which gave the 5-year-old mare a record three straight scores in the Grade I race.
“She’s back galloping, doing great. She’ll get a little work sometime this week. It could be Wednesday, Thursday, Friday; I just don’t know. She’ll have two breezes at Santa Anita, a shorter one and a longer one, and one at Keeneland before the Classic.
“Right now, we are surely thinking of the Classic, but by the time we ship (Oct. 19), and all of that, if we had a feeling that she had regressed at all, we would go the more conservative route and run her in the filly race ($2 million Distaff on Oct. 30).
“But right now we have no intention of that. We plan to run in the big one.”
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With weather coast-to-coast wreaking havoc on firm shipping plans and workout schedules, Richard Mandella, known for running an ultra-tight ship, has matters pretty much under control for Beholder and her expected engagement in the Breeders’ Cup Classic at Keeneland on Oct. 31.
Face it: Mandella’s middle name is “Organized.”
Beholder, a winner of two Eclipse Awards and in prime pouncing position to earn her third, should work this week for a likely start in the $5 million Classic in what could be a showdown for Horse of the Year honors with Triple Crown winner American Pharoah.
“She came out of her race great,” Mandella said of the 3 ¼-length romp by Beholder in the Sept. 26 Zenyatta Stakes, which gave the 5-year-old mare a record three straight scores in the Grade I race.
“She’s back galloping, doing great. She’ll get a little work sometime this week. It could be Wednesday, Thursday, Friday; I just don’t know. She’ll have two breezes at Santa Anita, a shorter one and a longer one, and one at Keeneland before the Classic.
“Right now, we are surely thinking of the Classic, but by the time we ship (Oct. 19), and all of that, if we had a feeling that she had regressed at all, we would go the more conservative route and run her in the filly race ($2 million Distaff on Oct. 30).
“But right now we have no intention of that. We plan to run in the big one.”
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An alumni of Macon State College, Ashley is from Central Georgia but is currently living in New Hampshire with her husband Chris and their two sons Charlie and Michael. A stay-at-home mom, Ashley juggles parenting with blogging and her other passions. Aside from horse racing, Ashley is a fervent football fan, enjoys reading and studying history, and hopes to someday author a historical work covering the Tudor period as well as biographies of horse racing’s stars, equine and human alike.
Before joining Horse Racing Nation, Ashley created her own blog Wired with Ashley Paige. The idea to venture into the world of blogging came to her when she realized that she had much to say about horse racing and no one to say it to at the time. Ashley began her time with Horse Racing Nation blogging as The Florida Filly. Using that moniker, she mainly covered racing in South Florida but also blogged about nationwide racing, industry issues, and from time to time offered her opinion on how various changes could be beneficial to the industry as a whole. A move north to New Hampshire began both a new chapter in both Ashley's personal life and professional life. She currently pens the new From Coast to Coast blog for HRN, which is simply a revamped version of The Florida Filly. Don't let the new look and name change fool you, though. Ashley still brings to the table the same great coverage as From Coast to Coast as she did for The Florida Filly. Ashley also participates as a voter in the NTRA Top Thoroughbred Polls.
An alumni of Macon State College, Ashley is from Central Georgia but is currently living in New Hampshire with her husband Chris and their two sons Charlie and Michael. A stay-at-home mom, Ashley juggles parenting with blogging and her other passions. Aside from horse racing, Ashley is a fervent football fan, enjoys reading and studying history, and hopes to someday author a historical work covering the Tudor period as well as biographies of horse racing’s stars, equine and human alike.
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Questions Facing Breeders' Cup Classic Horses
Well, all the preps are over, and now comes the waiting; first for the pre-entries, then the entries to determine the starting fields.
The biggest interest in the makeup of the Classic field will be whether Liam’s Map will try to stretch out to 1 1/4 miles or contest the Dirt Mile, which around two turns might as well be a mile and 70 yards or 1 1/16 miles. It is not a true mile. So even though the two turns likely would make him a virtual lock, the chances of him passing the Classic would appear to be extremely slim, so let’s consider him a Classic starter.
The presence of Liam’s Map would have a major impact on the Classic, as he would pose quite a problem for tactical speed horses like American Pharoah and Beholder, who would have their work cut out for them trying to track him and then overtake him and still have enough to fend off the closers.
We all are aware of the strengths of the Classic horses. But we have plenty of time to analyze that. To start off, perhaps it is best to discuss what each horse has to overcome and the question marks that surround them.
Those question marks do not indicate whether I like a particular horse’s chances. It is merely a devil’s advocate approach to demonstrate the obstacles each horse faces and the reasons why one should be a bit apprehensive in their handicapping approach and not take anything for granted. -
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Well, all the preps are over, and now comes the waiting; first for the pre-entries, then the entries to determine the starting fields.
The biggest interest in the makeup of the Classic field will be whether Liam’s Map will try to stretch out to 1 1/4 miles or contest the Dirt Mile, which around two turns might as well be a mile and 70 yards or 1 1/16 miles. It is not a true mile. So even though the two turns likely would make him a virtual lock, the chances of him passing the Classic would appear to be extremely slim, so let’s consider him a Classic starter.
The presence of Liam’s Map would have a major impact on the Classic, as he would pose quite a problem for tactical speed horses like American Pharoah and Beholder, who would have their work cut out for them trying to track him and then overtake him and still have enough to fend off the closers.
We all are aware of the strengths of the Classic horses. But we have plenty of time to analyze that. To start off, perhaps it is best to discuss what each horse has to overcome and the question marks that surround them.
Those question marks do not indicate whether I like a particular horse’s chances. It is merely a devil’s advocate approach to demonstrate the obstacles each horse faces and the reasons why one should be a bit apprehensive in their handicapping approach and not take anything for granted. -
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Questions Facing Breeders' Cup Classic Horses
Well, all the preps are over, and now comes the waiting; first for the pre-entries, then the entries to determine the starting fields.
The biggest interest in the makeup of the Classic field will be whether Liam’s Map will try to stretch out to 1 1/4 miles or contest the Dirt Mile, which around two turns might as well be a mile and 70 yards or 1 1/16 miles. It is not a true mile. So even though the two turns likely would make him a virtual lock, the chances of him passing the Classic would appear to be extremely slim, so let’s consider him a Classic starter.
The presence of Liam’s Map would have a major impact on the Classic, as he would pose quite a problem for tactical speed horses like American Pharoah and Beholder, who would have their work cut out for them trying to track him and then overtake him and still have enough to fend off the closers.
We all are aware of the strengths of the Classic horses. But we have plenty of time to analyze that. To start off, perhaps it is best to discuss what each horse has to overcome and the question marks that surround them.
Those question marks do not indicate whether I like a particular horse’s chances. It is merely a devil’s advocate approach to demonstrate the obstacles each horse faces and the reasons why one should be a bit apprehensive in their handicapping approach and not take anything for granted. -
See more at: Questions Facing Breeders' Cup Classic Horses - Hangin' With Haskin
New Breeders' Cup Classic odds narrow field
The preps are done and the field (mostly) assumed at this point for the Breeders' Cup Classic. That said, Wynn Las Vegas significantly trimmed its interests in odds released Monday for the Oct. 31 race at Keeneland.
Triple Crown winner American Pharoah, of course, is the top choice of 15 listed by the Wynn ahead of Beholder and Honor Code.
The Wynn does list European turf star Gleneagles as well as a list of longshots so far not confirmed for the race, including Red Vine, Coach Inge, Imperative and Effinex.
The race book also added a wager sure to entice bettors, a head to head between American Pharoah (-150) and mare Beholder (+120).
Wynn bets require a $5 minimum, and all wagers are for win values.
Breeders' Cup Classic odds as of Oct. 5
Horse | Open | Current
American Pharoah | 50-1 | 3-2
Beholder | 12-1 | 3-1
Honor Code | 75-1 | 8-1
Tonalist | 12-1 | 8-1
Liam's Map | 75-1 | 10-1
Frosted | 50-1 | 10-1
Keen Ice | 60-1 | 12-1
Gleneagles | 100-1 | 14-1
Hoppertunity | 20-1 | 20-1
Red Vine | 25-1 | 30-1
Smooth Roller | 30-1 | 30-1
Coach Inge | 60-1 | 40-1
Imperative | 50-1 | 50-1
Hard Aces | 50-1 | 25-1
Effinex | 50-1 | 75-1
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The preps are done and the field (mostly) assumed at this point for the Breeders' Cup Classic. That said, Wynn Las Vegas significantly trimmed its interests in odds released Monday for the Oct. 31 race at Keeneland.
Triple Crown winner American Pharoah, of course, is the top choice of 15 listed by the Wynn ahead of Beholder and Honor Code.
The Wynn does list European turf star Gleneagles as well as a list of longshots so far not confirmed for the race, including Red Vine, Coach Inge, Imperative and Effinex.
The race book also added a wager sure to entice bettors, a head to head between American Pharoah (-150) and mare Beholder (+120).
Wynn bets require a $5 minimum, and all wagers are for win values.
Breeders' Cup Classic odds as of Oct. 5
Horse | Open | Current
American Pharoah | 50-1 | 3-2
Beholder | 12-1 | 3-1
Honor Code | 75-1 | 8-1
Tonalist | 12-1 | 8-1
Liam's Map | 75-1 | 10-1
Frosted | 50-1 | 10-1
Keen Ice | 60-1 | 12-1
Gleneagles | 100-1 | 14-1
Hoppertunity | 20-1 | 20-1
Red Vine | 25-1 | 30-1
Smooth Roller | 30-1 | 30-1
Coach Inge | 60-1 | 40-1
Imperative | 50-1 | 50-1
Hard Aces | 50-1 | 25-1
Effinex | 50-1 | 75-1
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Manne wrote:
New Breeders' Cup Classic odds narrow field
The preps are done and the field (mostly) assumed at this point for the Breeders' Cup Classic. That said, Wynn Las Vegas significantly trimmed its interests in odds released Monday for the Oct. 31 race at Keeneland.
Triple Crown winner American Pharoah, of course, is the top choice of 15 listed by the Wynn ahead of Beholder and Honor Code.
The Wynn does list European turf star Gleneagles as well as a list of longshots so far not confirmed for the race, including Red Vine, Coach Inge, Imperative and Effinex.
The race book also added a wager sure to entice bettors, a head to head between American Pharoah (-150) and mare Beholder (+120).
Wynn bets require a $5 minimum, and all wagers are for win values.
Breeders' Cup Classic odds as of Oct. 5
Horse | Open | Current
American Pharoah | 50-1 | 3-2
Beholder | 12-1 | 3-1
Honor Code | 75-1 | 8-1
Tonalist | 12-1 | 8-1
Liam's Map | 75-1 | 10-1
Frosted | 50-1 | 10-1
Keen Ice | 60-1 | 12-1
Gleneagles | 100-1 | 14-1
Hoppertunity | 20-1 | 20-1
Red Vine | 25-1 | 30-1
Smooth Roller | 30-1 | 30-1
Coach Inge | 60-1 | 40-1
Imperative | 50-1 | 50-1
Hard Aces | 50-1 | 25-1
Effinex | 50-1 | 75-1
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I don't think American Pharoah will win again. My bet goes to 'Gleneagles'.
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nattika wrote:
I don't think American Pharoah will win again. My bet goes to 'Gleneagles'.
Are the odds from bodog?? I will make two bets 1. American Pharoah 2. Smooth Roller.
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2. Beholder - Look out boys, this mare is the genuine article. Of course, we knew that all along, but the two-time champion has taken things to a whole new exciting level of late. They say thoroughbred horses do not reach full athletic maturity until they hit the age of five, and Beholder looks to be proving that theory to be true, and as good as she was in the first three seasons of her career, that is a scary proposition for her connections. Beholder will need to prove that she can win one outside of California, as well as the not so small task of handling a field infinitely tougher than she saw at Del Mar, but off of her stellar performance in the ten furlong Pacific Classic, it is fair to wonder if all she will need to do is repeat that performance to walk away with the biggest prize in her excellent career.
3. Honor Code - So they say he is prepping for the Classic in the one-mile Kelso rather than the ten furlong Jockey Club Gold Cup. I don’t presume to know a fraction of what the Hall of Famer Shug McGaughey knows about his horses, but I must admit to being a bit surprised by this choice. It seems getting in a strong prep at the distance would give him the foundation to have his rally strongest at Keeneland. Even if he was defeated in the Jockey Club, I think it would do him plenty of good for a Classic run. It certainly did just that for his sire, A.P. Indy back in 1992. Having said that, the Kelso should bring him to Kentucky a sharp horse, and if the expected fast fractions materialize on October 31, you have to respect the Met Mile and Whitney winner’s ability to pick them up and lay them down in the stretch.
4. Tonalist - It seems like a long time since the 2014 Belmont Stakes and Jockey Club Gold Cup winner actually won a race, but remember he did win the Westchester back on Kentucky Derby day. Despite his current three-race losing streak since, the son of Tapit continues to run well. Perhaps he is just laying in the weeds ready to pounce in the right spot; and you know what? This year’s Classic could be just that spot. He should get plenty of early pace to run at, and unlike the one just above him, Tonalist is certainly proven at the distance. If America’s richest race does indeed set things up for the late runners, Honor Code may have a very tough time running by this one at the extended distance of ten furlongs.
5. Liam’s Map - With both of the top two breathing down his neck early, the Breeders’ Cup Classic would not seem to be an easy spot for this speedy son of Unbridled’s Song, but considering how fantastic he ran in consecutive Grade 1 races this summer at the Spa, it would be hard for his connections to pass on this spot. Sure, he would likely be the one to beat in the Breeders’ Cup Dirt Mile, but I believe that his Whitney and Woodward prove that he can run with anyone right now. Love his chances or not in the Classic, at the very least, he should force the hand of American Pharoah and Beholder at some point in the race, because quality speed like that of Liam’s Map needs to be respected.
6. Keen Ice - Beware the late developing colt. This strapping son of Curlin always had a strong late run, but never seemed to get there. His third in the Belmont, and second in the Haskell were steps in the right direction, and sure enough, he put it all together on the big stage of the Travers. He was benefited by grueling middle fractions which saw Frosted turn the screws on American Pharoah, but in the Classic, he could benefit from the same advantageous softening up of the leaders. There are a few late runners that I still like a bit better, but Keen Ice, proven at the distance and on the improve, could be a dangerous horse to take for granted once again.
7. Frosted - I cannot help but to like this good looking, gray son of Tapit. Since his sharp win in the Grade 1 Wood Memorial, he has run four very good races, only to fall short of victory each time. Of course, much of that can be directly attributed to the presence of one American Pharoah. Frosted has shown the ability to run his race a variety of different ways, and that could come in handy in the big race. I realize that he is not the most likely winner of the Breeders’ Cup Classic, but you never know. He is all quality, and maybe now, without having to be the one to pressure American Pharoah early, he can sit a comfortable middle of the pack trip, and be able to pounce at the right time.
8. Gleneagles - It seems strange to me to have such a wonderful horse, from such solid connections, this low on the list. Gleneagles is pure class. The top juvenile in Europe last year, he is undefeated against Group 1 competition this year. Other horses like this have come over and run very well in the Classic before, but in my mind, he has three big factors going against him in the 2015 edition. Unlike the Raven’s Pass, Henrythenavigator year, this Breeders’ Cup Classic is run on dirt. Gleneagles has never run on