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All in heads up up would u rather have ace king suited or unsuited vs pocket twos or vice versa? please tell me what u would prefer i would love to hear back from u thanks
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flash3434 wrote:

All in heads up up would u rather have ace king suited or unsuited vs pocket twos or vice versa? please tell me what u would prefer i would love to hear back from u thanks

I think i would preffer ace king suited :p
Join: 2009/11/11 Messages: 59
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melk22 wrote:

I think i would preffer ace king suited :p

I would like it if it was suited but i would preffer pocket 33s lol
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flash3434 wrote:

All in heads up up would u rather have ace king suited or unsuited vs pocket twos or vice versa? please tell me what u would prefer i would love to hear back from u thanks

all in heads up up would u rather have ace king suited or unsuited vs pocket twos or vice versa? please tell me what u would prefer i would love to hear back from u thanks

threw this into calc to see how they fair up:
here are the results...

AK suited 49.7% as oppose to pocket 2s 49.6% tie is approx 0.63%

AK off 46.6% as oppose to pocket 2s 52.7% tie is approx 0.58%

also ak suited vs ak unsuited 7.16% vs 2.17% tie approx 90%

personally i'd prefer AK suited also. you know if you have the 22 the ace/ king is gonna hit on the river 😁 πŸ˜‰πŸ˜‰

of course if you have the 22 and i have AA your bound to hit that deuce :mad::mad:πŸ˜„
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flash3434 wrote:

All in heads up up would u rather have ace king suited or unsuited vs pocket twos or vice versa? please tell me what u would prefer i would love to hear back from u thanks

I will take the AK any day......Anything can still happen with AK. First you can hit and ace or king.....you could end up having a straight draw....and if two pair show up on the board....the pot is yours. Not saying I wouldn't call with a 22....I may....but I would rather AK
Join: 2009/10/25 Messages: 218
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marco123 wrote:

all in heads up up would u rather have ace king suited or unsuited vs pocket twos or vice versa? please tell me what u would prefer i would love to hear back from u thanks

threw this into calc to see how they fair up:
here are the results...

AK suited 49.7% as oppose to pocket 2s 49.6% tie is approx 0.63%

AK off 46.6% as oppose to pocket 2s 52.7% tie is approx 0.58%

also ak suited vs ak unsuited 7.16% vs 2.17% tie approx 90%

personally i'd prefer AK suited also. you know if you have the 22 the ace/ king is gonna hit on the river 😁 πŸ˜‰πŸ˜‰

of course if you have the 22 and i have AA your bound to hit that deuce :mad::mad:πŸ˜„

threw this into calc to see how they fair up:
here are the results...

AK suited 49.7% as oppose to pocket 2s 49.6% tie is approx 0.63%

AK off 46.6% as oppose to pocket 2s 52.7% tie is approx 0.58%

also ak suited vs ak unsuited 7.16% vs 2.17% tie approx 90%

personally i'd prefer AK suited also. you know if you have the 22 the ace/ king is gonna hit on the river 😁 πŸ˜‰πŸ˜‰

of course if you have the 22 and i have AA your bound to hit that deuce :mad::mad:πŸ˜„
[FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"]And this is why these pocket pair vs. 2 over cards situations are called a coin flip. . .

My own preference would lean towards the AKo because before the flop comes I have 6 outs to beat his pocket pair while he has only 2 outs to have me pretty much drawing dead -- discounting possibilities of connecting to flush & straight draws on the board. Yeah, you've gone into the flop behind & the odds of catching one of the overs pretty much still suck, but you're gonna be hoping the coin lands the way you've called it. . .
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SycoSteve wrote:

threw this into calc to see how they fair up:
here are the results...

AK suited 49.7% as oppose to pocket 2s 49.6% tie is approx 0.63%

AK off 46.6% as oppose to pocket 2s 52.7% tie is approx 0.58%

also ak suited vs ak unsuited 7.16% vs 2.17% tie approx 90%

personally i'd prefer AK suited also. you know if you have the 22 the ace/ king is gonna hit on the river 😁 πŸ˜‰πŸ˜‰

of course if you have the 22 and i have AA your bound to hit that deuce :mad::mad:πŸ˜„
[FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"]And this is why these pocket pair vs. 2 over cards situations are called a coin flip. . .

My own preference would lean towards the AKo because before the flop comes I have 6 outs to beat his pocket pair while he has only 2 outs to have me pretty much drawing dead -- discounting possibilities of connecting to flush & straight draws on the board. Yeah, you've gone into the flop behind & the odds of catching one of the overs pretty much still suck, but you're gonna be hoping the coin lands the way you've called it. . .
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Well ak suited is a far a better hadn than poket 2s
would take that over the 2s. preflop
but after preflop i would porbally wished for the poket 2s.
interresting as i have beatin big slick before with poket 2s and 3s:1orglaugh
but i think preflop surly the big slick
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lord argyle wrote:

Well ak suited is a far a better hadn than poket 2s
would take that over the 2s. preflop
but after preflop i would porbally wished for the poket 2s.
interresting as i have beatin big slick before with poket 2s and 3s:1orglaugh
but i think preflop surly the big slick

I like the 22's over Ak. I don't want to depend on the flop to make my hand.
Join: 2008/04/19 Messages: 119
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greywind050 wrote:

I like the 22's over Ak. I don't want to depend on the flop to make my hand.

Is funny how we see the hands, AKs VS 22 is pretty much a coin flip, but if i am shorstack in a full table and i am waiting to push, probably push AKs with out think much, but 22 will cost me to decide to push.
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Logan wrote:

Is funny how we see the hands, AKs VS 22 is pretty much a coin flip, but if i am shorstack in a full table and i am waiting to push, probably push AKs with out think much, but 22 will cost me to decide to push.

I think the pockets would have better odds in a heads up.
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WildmanSC wrote:

I think the pockets would have better odds in a heads up.

Let's face it. The ducks have to be your choice. Your all in, its heads up and you have a pair. Any pair heads up is great. The A/K is a drawing hand. Its a good drawing hand but it has the same odds as 3/4, 7/8 or any other drawing hand in this situation. The 2's are ahead and anytime I can get my chips in the middle with the best hand, I'll take it.
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flash3434 wrote:

All in heads up up would u rather have ace king suited or unsuited vs pocket twos or vice versa? please tell me what u would prefer i would love to hear back from u thanks

all in heads up up would u rather have ace king suited or unsuited vs pocket twos or vice versa? please tell me what u would prefer i would love to hear back from u thanks
you didnt mention if it was an all-in situation




if I am ahead in chips (the 22)
I would probably raise w/ em, depending on the stack difference


behind in chips
I wouldnt play em if I was looking at a all-in & was my tourney life
-I hate gettin counterfeited -
(I've been counterfeited w/jacks before- so thats always on my mind)
but would wanna see a cheap flop

even in chips
I wouldnt put a whole lotta faith in em

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mjoshin125 wrote:

all in heads up up would u rather have ace king suited or unsuited vs pocket twos or vice versa? please tell me what u would prefer i would love to hear back from u thanks
you didnt mention if it was an all-in situation




if I am ahead in chips (the 22)
I would probably raise w/ em, depending on the stack difference


behind in chips
I wouldnt play em if I was looking at a all-in & was my tourney life
-I hate gettin counterfeited -
(I've been counterfeited w/jacks before- so thats always on my mind)
but would wanna see a cheap flop

even in chips
I wouldnt put a whole lotta faith in em

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Oops, I guess you did mention all in


I dont want the 22
unless I have the chip lead

I take the AKs
with a S-stack
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mjoshin125 wrote:

Oops, I guess you did mention all in


I dont want the 22
unless I have the chip lead

I take the AKs
with a S-stack

Cant remember but one of the pros on tv was saying how he bet like 10k a hand with some other play...he had 22 every hand and the other guy had Ace King suited..he said he won some 500k with the 2's before the other guy wanted to stop...
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flash3434 wrote:

All in heads up up would u rather have ace king suited or unsuited vs pocket twos or vice versa? please tell me what u would prefer i would love to hear back from u thanks

Gimme the deuces I like to try and win with small pairs and have hands hold up rather than try to catch.
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Dorginne wrote:

Gimme the deuces I like to try and win with small pairs and have hands hold up rather than try to catch.

The real question about your question is "Why would anyone prefer A,K offsuit rather that A,K suited"? :confused: As far as A,K suited vs. 2,2. It's a coin flip exactly, so flip a coin like Phil Laak! :dance:
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WildmanSC wrote:

I think the pockets would have better odds in a heads up.

Id rather go with AK,but Ive lost out in my games so far today.So my judgement may not be great.Got KK went allin and A-10 called and hit trip aces...got to play 1 hand the entire game,lol..no money lost tho..
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tallseas wrote:

Let's face it. The ducks have to be your choice. Your all in, its heads up and you have a pair. Any pair heads up is great. The A/K is a drawing hand. Its a good drawing hand but it has the same odds as 3/4, 7/8 or any other drawing hand in this situation. The 2's are ahead and anytime I can get my chips in the middle with the best hand, I'll take it.

Is this a tourney or cash situation? Also, if cash, do I have more in my account or am I foolishly playing with my whole wad?

Either way, I have to say that, as many have said, I would actually prefer the 2s in a HU situation like this... I know it is a coin flip (the 2s being slightly favored) but still having a 'hand' versus having a couple of high cards seems slightly better to me. So many people refer to starting cards as a 'hand' but really they are just that, starting CARDS. After all, one in the hand is worth two in the bush! :thumbsup

Besides, in my own experience, small pairs almost always treat me better than Big Slick! LOL

OF COURSE, if this were not a HU situation my appreciation of the 2s will get reduced as the number of players in the pot increases, but I guess that kind of goes without saying. In a situation with more players a lot more comes into play, like other players styles and position.
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bestoboth wrote:

Is this a tourney or cash situation? Also, if cash, do I have more in my account or am I foolishly playing with my whole wad?

Either way, I have to say that, as many have said, I would actually prefer the 2s in a HU situation like this... I know it is a coin flip (the 2s being slightly favored) but still having a 'hand' versus having a couple of high cards seems slightly better to me. So many people refer to starting cards as a 'hand' but really they are just that, starting CARDS. After all, one in the hand is worth two in the bush! :thumbsup

Besides, in my own experience, small pairs almost always treat me better than Big Slick! LOL

OF COURSE, if this were not a HU situation my appreciation of the 2s will get reduced as the number of players in the pot increases, but I guess that kind of goes without saying. In a situation with more players a lot more comes into play, like other players styles and position.

The problem with those small pocket pairs is that there are so many ways to be beat.
#1, whos aggressing? the guy with the ak? if this is the case than you can put him on any pocket pair better than twos threes or fives etc. in which case twos are practically drawing dead.
#2, Ok, you have 22 vs the guys ak suited or off, doesnt matter really,
Anyway, the board comes 334. Looks good so far for deuces right? yea well not really, now the ak can hit an a or a king or a four, say the turn comes 7, now he's got aces kings fours and sevens to beat your twos.

In another scenario you hit your two on the flop, flop comes ak2, or aa2, you can see the train wreck coming here.
I guess, in summary.
imho, ak pwns 22 on the regular
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keithdn68 wrote:

I will take the AK any day......Anything can still happen with AK. First you can hit and ace or king.....you could end up having a straight draw....and if two pair show up on the board....the pot is yours. Not saying I wouldn't call with a 22....I may....but I would rather AK

I think the key here is what the odds are with more than 2 players. Its a coin flip heads up, but if there's 3 or more players, pocket 2's don't look too good. So I guess it depend on position and how many are in it. If I'm going allin, I want to be heads up with 2 2, or have 2 or 3 callers with A K.
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